• Hard Drive configuration

    From Bogomips@VERT to All on Monday, May 12, 2025 10:44:04
    In and attempt to have a dual boot laptop


    Ive been trying to get get the slackware install to recognize the D: drive on install.

    After trying every scenerio online. I still come up short.

    I was thinking of changing the physical location of the drive?

    Out of the box (2018) it was setup in RAID config.

    The BIOS shows the two drives as
    First HDD none
    Second HDD none
    Third HDD IntelSSDlkji (180.G)
    fourth HDD sd2000louol (2000.3G)

    Was wondering if I could move the D: drive to the first or seconds spot?

    And any other actions I would need to take?
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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Bogomips on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 08:04:00
    Bogomips wrote to All <=-

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    In and attempt to have a dual boot laptop


    Ive been trying to get get the slackware install to recognize the D:
    drive on install.

    After trying every scenerio online. I still come up short.

    I was thinking of changing the physical location of the drive?

    Out of the box (2018) it was setup in RAID config.

    The BIOS shows the two drives as
    First HDD none
    Second HDD none
    Third HDD IntelSSDlkji (180.G)
    fourth HDD sd2000louol (2000.3G)

    Was wondering if I could move the D: drive to the first or seconds
    spot?

    And any other actions I would need to take?

    Try using a Linux Live CD like systemrescuecd. Boot it, see if that detects it.
    Also look at the output of "dmesg", see if that reports any errors, and the output of the command 'lsblk'.

    I'm not too familiar with Slackware installer, but if there is a way to get to a command line interface WITHIN the installer to run commands, you could do this within the Slackware installer. Often with Linux installers you can get access to a shell.

    dmesg will show you all the kernel messages. If you look through it, it will mention everything the kernel has detected in terms of hardware. It will indicate if its found the other hard drive or not, and should detect any RAID set up.

    lsblk is another command which simply lists block devices.

    It is a little unusual for Linux not to see the drive, I've never really come across that before.

    It's also important to understand that Linux does NOT do drive letters, it does devices. C: and D: are windows constructs for PARTITIONS. First partition C:, Second D: and so on. D: could actually be on the SAME disk as C:

    Also, if you have a second hard-drive, but it is NOT partitioned for Windows, it
    won't come up as D: at all.

    If you could let us know what 'lsblk' reports, that would help.

    A drive will appear to be something like
    /dev/sdd
    with each partition
    /dev/sdd1
    /dev/sdd2
    etc

    The fact that the BIOS is finding it means that Linux SHOULD see it as well. Lets see what Linux actually reports first, and verify this isn't simply a case of it actually seeing it and you not recognising that it found it.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Bogomips on Monday, May 12, 2025 21:33:47
    Bogomips wrote to All <=-

    In and attempt to have a dual boot laptop

    Ive been trying to get get the slackware install to recognize the D:
    drive on install.

    This doesn't really make any sense to me. Slackware doesn't know
    anything about any "D:". That's a Windows term.

    After trying every scenerio online. I still come up short.

    I was thinking of changing the physical location of the drive?

    Not sure what that means. Attach it to a different port/cable?

    Out of the box (2018) it was setup in RAID config.

    I would recommend not doing RAID, at least for now. I don't know a
    whole lot about RAID, but don't the 2 drives have to be the same size to
    use RAID? The data below shows them as different sizes.

    The BIOS shows the two drives as
    First HDD none
    Second HDD none
    Third HDD IntelSSDlkji (180.G)
    fourth HDD sd2000louol (2000.3G)

    Strange, seems they would show up as the First and Second. Are these
    SATA? PATA/IDE? M2/NVME? What are they?

    Was wondering if I could move the D: drive to the first or seconds
    spot?

    Not sure what that even means.

    And any other actions I would need to take?

    Get them connected to (maybe/probably) the SATA0 and SATA1 connectors
    (I'm assuming SATA drives here). If you can boot up to the Slackware installation media (USB stick?), then run fdisk/cfdisk/cgdisk to wipe
    the partion table out on both drives. Then create new partitions as
    desired. Then reboot into the installation media and start the install.

    Get the "D:" out of your head when installing Linux/Slackware. Also, in
    my dim memory of when I used to dual boot, I believe it's usually
    (always?) best to install Windoze before whatever Linux distro you want
    to install.

    Feel free to ask some more questions with some actual useful info on
    your setup/config if you need to. Good luck.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Monday, May 12, 2025 21:00:41
    Re: Re: Hard Drive configuration
    By: Gamgee to Bogomips on Mon May 12 2025 09:33 pm

    Ive been trying to get get the slackware install to recognize the D:
    drive on install.

    This doesn't really make any sense to me. Slackware doesn't know anything about any "D:". That's a Windows term.

    I wondered if his "D:" drive is a partition on a secondary hard drive. He may be referring to a specific hard drive he has, wanting to install Linux on it.

    Was wondering if I could move the D: drive to the first or seconds spot?

    Not sure what that even means.

    If he's referring to a specific hard drive he has, I imagined this might mean plugging it into a different SATA port or something.

    Nightfox

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  • From Bogomips@VERT to Boraxman on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 04:58:52
    Re: Hard Drive configuration
    By: Boraxman to Bogomips on Tue May 13 2025 08:04 am

    Also look at the output of "dmesg", see if that reports any errors, and the output of the command 'lsblk'.

    I ran dmesg yesterday, but have to figure how to pause it. Shift/up arrow doesnt do what it did in previous versions.
    Will run lsblk today and see what the output is.

    It's also important to understand that Linux does NOT do drive letters, it does devices. C: and D: are windows constructs for PARTITIONS. First partition C:, Second D: and so on. D: could actually be on the SAME disk as C:
    Although it seems to have limited CLI i did try and mount /dev/sdb1 it just hung there and gave no error message

    It's configured in WIndows as D: and disk1 where C: is disk0 which leads me to believe it's two seperate disks?
    If you could let us know what 'lsblk' reports, that would help.
    After chores this morning I'll try the 'lsblk' and 'dmesg' after i find the switch to pause it

    Thank You for your insight and time to help
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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Bogomips on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 10:17:00
    On 12 May 2025, Bogomips said the following...

    In and attempt to have a dual boot laptop

    Ive been trying to get get the slackware install to recognize the D:
    drive on install.

    use lsblk...

    (sorry for the dump. better to have a huge example)

    $ lsblk

    NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
    sda 8:0 0 3.6T 0 disk
    ÀÄsda1 8:1 0 3.6T 0 part /mnt/storage-a
    sdb 8:16 0 3.6T 0 disk
    ÀÄsdb1 8:17 0 3.6T 0 part /mnt/storage-b
    sdc 8:32 0 931.5G 0 disk
    ÀÄsdc1 8:33 0 931.5G 0 part /home
    sdd 8:48 0 238.5G 0 disk
    ÃÄsdd1 8:49 0 650M 0 part /boot/efi
    ÃÄsdd2 8:50 0 8G 0 part [SWAP]
    ÀÄsdd3 8:51 0 229.8G 0 part /
    sde 8:64 0 232.9G 0 disk
    ÀÄsde1 8:65 0 232.9G 0 part /mnt/storage-d
    sdf 8:80 0 232.9G 0 disk
    ÀÄsdf1 8:81 0 232.9G 0 part /mnt/storage-c
    nvme0n1 259:0 0 232.9G 0 disk
    ÃÄnvme0n1p1 259:1 0 499M 0 part
    ÃÄnvme0n1p2 259:2 0 99M 0 part
    ÃÄnvme0n1p3 259:3 0 16M 0 part
    ÃÄnvme0n1p4 259:4 0 231.6G 0 part /mnt/ntfs-c
    ÀÄnvme0n1p5 259:5 0 666M 0 part
    nvme1n1 259:6 0 465.8G 0 disk
    ÃÄnvme1n1p1 259:7 0 16M 0 part
    ÀÄnvme1n1p2 259:8 0 465.7G 0 part /mnt/ntfs-d

    you're going to want to be VERY CAREFUL you fully understand which of these drives is which. for example, note that linux can see and i have mounted my two nvme ntfs drives for C: and D: on the windows side. you can see all the "junk" partitions on nvme0n1 that i've just left, as well as the primary partition. you can see sdd has my main linux partitions, including an EFI one for booting, a swap drive and the main linux partition (sdd3) and the separate drive for /home (sdc1)

    so now you kind of have an idea what sort of things you're looking for, imagine you have a "storage-d" drive like me that you want to nuke for linux, which is under "sde"

    $ cfdisk /dev/sde

    i'm kind of suspecting cfdisk is just loading the first drive it sees, and cfdisk is *not* an all-the-drives-at-one-time maintenance tool, so you're thinking it isn't finding your drive. you do your work on one and then
    save/close it out and then maybe do the next.

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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 19:08:00
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    Re: Re: Hard Drive configuration
    By: Gamgee to Bogomips on
    Mon May 12 2025 09:33 pm

    Ive been trying to get get the slackware install to recognize the D:
    drive on install.

    This doesn't really make any sense to me. Slackware doesn't know anything about any "D:". That's a Windows term.

    I wondered if his "D:" drive is a partition on a secondary hard drive.
    He may be referring to a specific hard drive he has, wanting to install Linux on it.

    Was wondering if I could move the D: drive to the first or seconds spot?

    Not sure what that even means.

    If he's referring to a specific hard drive he has, I imagined this
    might mean plugging it into a different SATA port or something.

    Hopefully we'll get some information from the system, but I suspect the
    issue may simply be that it IS showing the other hard drive, but he's
    expecting to see it presented as something different to how it is being presented.

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  • From Bogomips@VERT to Gamgee on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 07:53:30
    Re: Re: Hard Drive configuration
    By: Gamgee to Bogomips on Mon May 12 2025 09:33 pm

    I was thinking of changing the physical location of the drive?

    Not sure what that means. Attach it to a different port/cable?
    Yes, I was thinking of moving the ribbon, If I could.


    I would recommend not doing RAID, at least for now. I don't know a
    whole lot about RAID, but don't the 2 drives have to be the same size to
    use RAID? The data below shows them as different sizes.

    I changed out of RAID, because everywhere I read said to change to ACHI for linux install.



    Strange, seems they would show up as the First and Second. Are these
    SATA? PATA/IDE? M2/NVME? What are they?
    SATA as far as I can tell.

    Was wondering if I could move the D: drive to the first or seconds spot?

    Not sure what that even means.

    Get the "D:" out of your head when installing Linux/Slackware. Also, in
    my dim memory of when I used to dual boot, I believe it's usually
    (always?) best to install Windoze before whatever Linux distro you want
    to install.
    I was using the D: as reference to it being visible in windows.

    Thank You for your input, i appreciate it

    Feel free to ask some more questions with some actual useful info on
    your setup/config if you need to. Good luck.
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  • From Bogomips@VERT to Gamgee on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 08:26:36
    Re: Re: Hard Drive configuration
    By: Gamgee to Bogomips on Mon May 12 2025 09:33 pm

    (I'm assuming SATA drives here). If you can boot up to the Slackware installation media (USB stick?), then run fdisk/cfdisk/cgdisk to wipe
    the partion table out on both drives. Then create new partitions as desired. Then reboot into the installation media and start the install.

    That is my whole dilema. I can't see the second drive during install with cfdisk, in order to partition it. Only sda, no sdb.
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  • From Bogomips@VERT to Nightfox on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 08:28:01
    Re: Re: Hard Drive configuration
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Mon May 12 2025 09:00 pm

    Was wondering if I could move the D: drive to the first or seconds spot?

    Not sure what that even means.

    If he's referring to a specific hard drive he has, I imagined this might mean plugging it into a different SATA port or something.

    That's exactly what I was thinking. but would rather not if I don't have to. ---
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  • From Bogomips@VERT to fusion on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 08:30:46
    Re: Re: Hard Drive configuration
    By: fusion to Bogomips on Tue May 13 2025 10:17 am

    i'm kind of suspecting cfdisk is just loading the first drive it sees, and cfdisk is *not* an all-the-drives-at-one-time maintenance tool, so you're thinking it isn't finding your drive. you do your work on one and then save/close it out and then maybe do the next.

    I never thought of that. I will try that
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  • From Bogomips@VERT to All on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 09:50:42
    Re: Hard Drive configuration
    By: Bogomips to All on Mon May 12 2025 10:44 am

    In and attempt to have a dual boot laptop


    Ive been trying to get get the slackware install to recognize the D: drive on install.

    After trying every scenerio online. I still come up short.

    I was thinking of changing the physical location of the drive?

    Out of the box (2018) it was setup in RAID config.

    The BIOS shows the two drives as
    First HDD none
    Second HDD none
    Third HDD IntelSSDlkji (180.G)
    fourth HDD sd2000louol (2000.3G)

    Was wondering if I could move the D: drive to the first or seconds spot?

    And any other actions I would need to take?

    *SOLVED*

    Result, cfdisk is not my friend.
    Partitioned the D: drive in windows and used fdisk during install.

    Thank you everyone for helping me figure this out

    When I saw the drive visible with lsblk, it dawned on me to just try and force the issue with fdisk.

    Now LILO is my only issue, but am able to logon to slackware with the install media. USB stick. And Ill probably just leave it like it is, and only log into widows if I have to.

    Thanks again, everyone.
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  • From Bogomips@VERT to fusion on Tuesday, May 13, 2025 09:55:25
    Re: Re: Hard Drive configuration
    By: fusion to Bogomips on Tue May 13 2025 10:17 am

    i'm kind of suspecting cfdisk is just loading the first drive it sees, and cfdisk is *not* an all-the-drives-at-one-time maintenance tool, so you're thinking it isn't finding your drive. you do your work on one and then save/close it out and then maybe do the next.

    That is *exactly* what was happening. so i partitioned the drive in windows and use *fdisk* to set the labels of the partitions.

    Thank You
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