• Telegram is Shit, What about Signal?

    From NerdRat Hispagatos@NerdRat@radicalnerd.com to hispagatos.talk,alt.2600.madrid,alt.2600 on Tuesday, September 24, 2024 16:19:22
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    The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late" awareness regarding privacy issues with the most used and widespread messaging technologies, has brought the question: what am i going to use then?

    This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is, and
    will be, and more:

    https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/

    So you know how why corporates are liars.

    But what about Signal? The lemmy creator has a BIG point in this document:

    https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

    And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less bad, so i
    am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review applications from their inception and who is behind before putting any information that could
    vulnerate our rights.
    --
    NerdRat
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  • From Cuaimito@cuaimito@vergatario.es to alt.2600,hispagatos.talk,alt.2600.madrid on Tuesday, September 24, 2024 22:22:12
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    El Tue, 24 Sep 2024 16:19:22 -0000 (UTC), NerdRat Hispagatos escribió:

    The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late"
    awareness regarding privacy issues with the most used and widespread messaging technologies, has brought the question: what am i going to use then?

    This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is, and
    will be, and more:

    https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/

    So you know how why corporates are liars.

    But what about Signal? The lemmy creator has a BIG point in this
    document:

    https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

    And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less bad, so i
    am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review applications from their inception and who is behind before putting any information that could vulnerate our rights.

    All this information is really interesting. Thank you very much.
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  • From rek2 hispagatos@rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid to alt.2600,hispagatos.talk,alt.2600.madrid on Wednesday, September 25, 2024 13:41:15
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    On 2024-09-24, Cuaimito <cuaimito@vergatario.es> wrote:
    El Tue, 24 Sep 2024 16:19:22 -0000 (UTC), NerdRat Hispagatos escribió:

    The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late"
    awareness regarding privacy issues with the most used and widespread
    messaging technologies, has brought the question: what am i going to use
    then?

    This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is, and
    will be, and more:

    https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/

    So you know how why corporates are liars.

    But what about Signal? The lemmy creator has a BIG point in this
    document:

    https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

    And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less bad, so i
    am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review applications from their
    inception and who is behind before putting any information that could
    vulnerate our rights.

    All this information is really interesting. Thank you very much.


    is all Bull shit. dont trust what regular people says in stupid reddit
    is why people were using telegram in the first place while we were
    saying for years IT was shit.

    go ahead and trust reddit LOL LOL Spanish people we are retarded always believen non-sense still of fatcs.



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  • From Zapatos@anon@nyob.invalid to alt.2600,hispagatos.talk on Thursday, September 26, 2024 21:53:26
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    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:15 -0000 (UTC)
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
    On 2024-09-24, Cuaimito <cuaimito@vergatario.es> wrote:
    El Tue, 24 Sep 2024 16:19:22 -0000 (UTC), NerdRat Hispagatos
    escribió:
    The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late"
    awareness regarding privacy issues with the most used and
    widespread messaging technologies, has brought the question: what
    am i going to use then?

    This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is,
    and will be, and more:

    https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/

    So you know how why corporates are liars.

    But what about Signal? The lemmy creator has a BIG point in this
    document:

    https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

    And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less
    bad, so i am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review
    applications from their inception and who is behind before putting
    any information that could vulnerate our rights.

    All this information is really interesting. Thank you very much.


    is all Bull shit. dont trust what regular people says in stupid reddit
    is why people were using telegram in the first place while we were
    saying for years IT was shit.

    go ahead and trust reddit LOL LOL Spanish people we are retarded
    always believen non-sense still of fatcs.



    "To use the Signal desktop app, Signal must first be installed on your
    phone."
    https://signal.org/download/linux/
    I don't use a phone for any kind of important communication. Not going
    to install an app on my phone just to enable a desktop app. No way.
    I refused to get a smartphone for over a decade until my new job
    required me to have one. I eventually quit that job and got rid of the
    phone. Screw mobile phones!
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  • From rek2 hispagatos@rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid to alt.2600,hispagatos.talk on Friday, September 27, 2024 14:55:52
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    On 2024-09-26, Zapatos <anon@nyob.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:15 -0000 (UTC)
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:

    I don't use a phone for any kind of important communication. Not going
    to install an app on my phone just to enable a desktop app. No way.

    I refused to get a smartphone for over a decade until my new job
    required me to have one. I eventually quit that job and got rid of the
    phone. Screw mobile phones!

    I agree, phones are for regular people that does not know how to use a
    real computer, my opinions regarding signal vs telegram are not as in
    which is just better, that obviosly signal is much better in privacy but
    not even near of real privacy software but my opinion was of people
    using whatsup and having an opinion on the matter, a lot of People in
    Spain use whatsup "because every one uses it" I myself, do not use it,
    so I found signal to be the ONLY software regular ignorant folks are willing to
    have, if it was not for signal a person like me that have lots of
    friends on different continents that are not hackers nor privacy
    advocates, I will be in 0 contact with any of them because I refuse to
    use whatsup, facebook, instagram and the likes, my mother and some family included, and I know a lot of other people aware of the situation are in
    our toes, I can use privacy and secure programs with other hackers, unix
    folks and old school people that knows their shit, what signal does is
    allows us to have some sort of contact with normal family and friends
    with out like "others do" go to the worse of all and use whatsup/telegram/facebook and the likes...
    one thing is to know what is better and another for it to be useful with
    out having to compromise 100%, easy to say signal may be better than
    telegram but is still not good, then that same people have whatsup,
    intagram, uses their phone as a computer and such... those are the ones against
    I am speaking to.

    Happy Hacking
    ReK2
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  • From killab33z@killab33z@protonmail.ch.invalid to alt.2600,hispagatos.talk,alt.2600.madrid on Tuesday, October 08, 2024 20:55:00
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    On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:15 -0000 (UTC), rek2 hispagatos wrote:

    On 2024-09-24, Cuaimito <cuaimito@vergatario.es> wrote:
    El Tue, 24 Sep 2024 16:19:22 -0000 (UTC), NerdRat Hispagatos escribió:

    The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late"
    awareness regarding privacy issues with the most used and widespread
    messaging technologies, has brought the question: what am i going to
    use then?

    This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is, and
    will be, and more:

    https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/

    So you know how why corporates are liars.

    But what about Signal? The lemmy creator has a BIG point in this
    document:

    https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

    And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less bad, so
    i am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review applications from
    their inception and who is behind before putting any information that
    could vulnerate our rights.

    All this information is really interesting. Thank you very much.


    is all Bull shit. dont trust what regular people says in stupid reddit
    is why people were using telegram in the first place while we were
    saying for years IT was shit.

    go ahead and trust reddit LOL LOL Spanish people we are retarded always believen non-sense still of fatcs.

    I totally agree that it's all bull shit. Both Telegram and Signal
    Messenger are total shit!
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  • From om@om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) to alt.2600,hispagatos.talk,alt.2600.madrid on Wednesday, November 20, 2024 12:43:00
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    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:

    https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html
    [...]
    is all Bull shit. dont trust what regular people says in stupid reddit
    is why people were using telegram in the first place while we were
    saying for years IT was shit.

    I do think Dessalines makes some very good points about the problems
    of Signal, specially the way it is even now tied into phone numbers.
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